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Thankfully, Larry David mocks Bill Maher ā First Amendment News 467

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āLook, I get it. It doesnāt matter who he is at a private dinner with a comedian. It matters who he is on the world stage. Iām just taking it as a positive that this person exists.ā ā Bill Maher, , HBO
āI knew I couldnāt change his views, but we need to talk to the other side ā even if it has invaded and annexed other countries and committed unspeakable crimes against humanity.ā ā Larry David, ā,ā The New York Times
By and large, I have long appreciated Bill Maherās āReal Timeā comic stings. Just the sort of thing that social comedy should do. In 2002, we shared a stage as of a . It was an honor, even though I found him rather full of himself.
That said, after watching my fill of and others, I take escapist pleasure in watching Bill slay any variety of righteous types with his comic axe. That is, until I watched the of āReal Time,ā the one where he joked about his dinner at the White House with President Trump.
While Maher did note Trumpās attacks on him, and his counter-attacks on Trump, he did so in a way that made Trump seem like little more than a nice guy with different views. Maher normalized the man who time and again has attacked First Amendment values with authoritarian abandon ā the very values Maher champions.

Ah, Billās dinner with Donald was so delightfully memorable: Donald was āgracious and measured.ā And catch this: heās no ācrazy person,ā said Maher, though he āplays a crazy person on TV.ā Moreover, heās āmuch more self-aware than he lets on.ā Heās ājust not as fucked up as I thought [he] was.ā
Oh, the private Donald was so tolerant, so engaging, so rational, and so open to hearing the other side. Ya just got to get to know the guy, break bread with him, warts and all. Hell (and thatās the word), in person he is actually āmeasured,ā even if he presents a real threat to constitutional democracy and a clear and present danger to almost every value of First Amendment law.
The folks at āFox And Friendsā the Maher/Trump āā moment, though they did not buy Maherās private/public distinction regarding Trumpās personality. Hardly. For them, what Maher portrayed was the real Trump: āWhat Bill Maher saw was what the American public as a whole has come to see. . . Heās not pretending to be something he isnāt. And thatās what stood out.ā
All of it made me want to puke!
āYou know,ā I said to my wife Susan, āI wonder what heād say if he met Hitler and found him to be āgracious.āā
Cut to Tuesday morning: Itās early, and Susan says, āYou gotta read this Larry David piece in the Times. Itās titled ā.ā It tracks what Maher said about Trump while mocking Maher every inch of the way.ā
Ok, match on!
Just as sometimes one must āfight fire with fire,ā so too sometimes one must fight ācomedy with comedy.ā Enter . Hereās how his satiric response to Maherās dinner with Trump opens:
Imagine my surprise when in the spring of 1939 a letter arrived at my house inviting me to dinner at the Old Chancellery with the worldās most reviled man, Adolf Hitler. I had been a vocal critic of his on the radio from the beginning, pretty much predicting everything he was going to do on the road to dictatorship. No one I knew encouraged me to go. āHeās Hitler. Heās a monster.ā But eventually I concluded that hate gets us nowhere. I knew I couldnāt change his views, but we need to talk to the other side ā even if it has invaded and annexed other countries and committed unspeakable crimes against humanity.

And hereās how David ends his deliciously jeering counter to Maher:
Two hours later, the dinner was over, and the Führer escorted me to the door. āI am so glad to have met you. I hope Iām no longer the monster you thought I was.ā āI must say, mein Führer, Iām so thankful I came. Although we disagree on many issues, it doesnāt mean that we have to hate each other.ā And with that, I gave him a Nazi salute and walked out into the night.
Note to Bill: You gotta curb your enthusiasm for your āgraciousā and āmeasuredā friend. Tyranny isnāt funny, itās evil!
Hold on! Maher got worse when Banon arrived:
Awful as his naĆÆve Trump dinner fiasco was, I was nonetheless eager to hear Maherās interview with Steve Bannon thereafter. When he wasnāt joking around, the good news was that Bill asked tough questions. The bad news was that, save for an opening exchange about Trumpās third-term aspirations, Maher really didnāt press Bannon every time he responded with an evasive answer. He just let it sit there and moved on to another tough question followed by more evasive answers . . . followed by ābro bonding.ā
Really Bill! What the fuck happened to your strong sting, bro? You were more like a soft butterfly.
Remember:
- Joseph Ax, ā,ā Reuters (April 2, 2013)
ā60 Minutesā producer quits over journalistic independence

- Michael M. Grynbaum and Benjamin Mullin, ā,ā (April 22)
CBS News entered a new period of turmoil on Tuesday after the executive producer of ā60 Minutes,ā Bill Owens, said that he would resign from the long-running Sunday news program, citing encroachments on his journalistic independence.
In an extraordinary declaration, Mr. Owens ā only the third person to run the program in its 57-year history ā told his staff in a memo that āover the past months, it has become clear that I would not be allowed to run the show as I have always run it, to make independent decisions based on what was right for ā60 Minutes,ā right for the audience.ā
āSo, having defended this show ā and what we stand for ā from every angle, over time with everything I could, I am stepping aside so the show can move forward,ā he wrote in the memo, which was obtained by The New York Times.
ā60 Minutesā has faced mounting pressure in recent months from both President Trump, who sued CBS for $10 billion and has of āunlawful and illegal behavior,ā and its own corporate ownership at Paramount, the parent company of CBS News.
Paramountās controlling shareholder, Shari Redstone, is eager to secure the Trump administrationās approval for a multibillion-dollar sale of her company to Skydance, a company run by the son of the tech billionaire Larry Ellison.ā
Comments offered to FAN by Floyd Abrams and Ira Glasser
āIt is deeply troubling that Bill Owens, whose leadership of ā60 Minutesā as its executive producer has been repeatedly honored through the years, has been obliged to resign because of pressure from the Trump Administration and ABCās new corporate owner. It is a blow to independent journalism and a great loss to the American public.ā ā&²Ō²ś²õ±č;
āUnless the Supreme Court radically changes First Amendment law, Trump's suit has no legal merit. If Paramount isnāt interested in defending CBSā right to criticize public officials, it ought to sell CBS to someone who is, and stick to the entertainment business. What Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite constructed, [executive chairwoman of Paramount Global] is tearing down.ā ā&²Ō²ś²õ±č;
Related
- Adam Reiss and Daniel Arkin, ā,ā NBC News (April 22)
- Corbin Bolies, āā The Daily Beast (April 22)
Coming Next Wednesday
Zickās Resources Compilation of Executive Actions Affecting First Amendment Rights
Coming as soon as next Wednesday, Professor and his colleagues over at will launch Professor Timothy Zickās invaluable Resources pages, replete with a comprehensive, topical, and hyperlinked set of references to virtually all of the Trump executive orders and related actions affecting free expression. This user-friendly and topic-specific resources page provides the most detailed and yet across-the-board account of what has happened within the last 100 days of this Administration in matters concerning the First Amendment.
Jury rules against Palin in defamation against The New York Times
- ā,ā NPR (April 22)
The New York Times did not libel former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in a 2017 editorial that contained an error she claimed had damaged her reputation, a jury concluded Tuesday. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin campaigned for the state's U.S. House seat in 2022 with the support of President Trump. She did not win.
The jury deliberated a little over two hours before reaching its verdict. A judge and a different jury had reached the same conclusion about Palin's defamation claims in 2022, but her lawsuit was revived by an appeals court.
Palin was subdued as she left the courthouse and made her way to a waiting car, telling reporters: āI get to go home to a beautiful family of five kids and grandkids and a beautiful property and get on with life. And that's nice.ā
FIRE fires back in Trump pollster fraud suit
āThis lawsuit is, as the Bard put it, a tale āfull of sound and fury, signifying nothing.āā
This case is built entirely on a tissue of shopworn campaign rhetoric and fever-dream conspiracy theories, yet even accepting Plaintiffsā wild factual assertions as true, the Complaint lacks any plausible legal theory on which to grant relief. The allegations of āfraudulent newsā are an affront to basic First Amendment law, and Plaintiffs continue to butcher elementary concepts like duty, reliance, causation, and damages under Iowa law. The Court should dismiss the Amended Complaint.
Arguments
- Plaintiffsā Claim That Election Polls and the News Coverage They Generate Can Be Labelled āFraudā Unprotected by the First Amendment is Utterly Baseless.
- There is No General First Amendment Exception for False Speech.
- Election Polling is Not Commercial Speech and is Fully Protected Election News Coverage.
- No Case Law Supports Plaintiffsā Theory of Liability.
- Plaintiffsā Claims are Facially Deficient Under Iowa Law
- Plaintiffs Fail to Plead a Cognizable ICFA Claim.
- Plaintiffs Fail to Plead a Fraudulent Misrepresentation Claim.
- Plaintiffs Fail to Plead a Negligent Misrepresentation Claim.
- Piercing the Corporate Veil.
Conclusion
This lawsuit is, as the Bard put it, a tale āfull of sound and fury, signifying nothing.ā William Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 5. Once you get past the groundless assertions, campaign-style hyperbole, and overheated conspiracy theories, there is nothing left. No legal basis whatsoever supports the claims, and Plaintiffsā opposition to the motions to dismiss reveals both shocking unfamiliarity with basic concepts of First Amendment law and a disregard of the pleading requirements for fraud or misrepresentation under Iowa law. As one court summed it up in another of President Trumpās attacks on free speech: āThis case should never have been brought. Its inadequacy as a legal claim was evident from the start. No reasonable lawyer would have filed it. Intended for a political purpose, none of the counts of the amended complaint stated a cognizable legal claim.ā Trump v. Clinton, 653 F.Supp.3d at 1207. The Court should dismiss this case with prejudice.
Attorneys for Defendants J. Ann Selzer, and Selzer & Company: Robert Corn-Revere, Conor T. Fitzpatrick, Greg H. Greubel, and Matthew A. McGuire
School district ordered to pay attorney fees to censored parent
- ā,ā Institute for Free Speech (April 21)

A federal judge has ordered that the Sheridan County (WY) School District must pay attorneysā fees following a lawsuit with Harry Pollak, a parent censored during a 2022 school board meeting
Following a lengthy legal dispute, the United States District Court for the District of Wyoming has awarded attorneysā fees totaling $156,000 to the litigation team representing Harry Pollak of Sheridan County. Mr. Pollak was represented by Institute for Free Speech Senior Attorney and local counsel Seth Johnson.
Mr. Pollak initially against the Sheridan County School District in March 2022 after he was cut off from speaking from speaking critically about the superintendent at a school board meeting. The board cited a policy against discussing āpersonnel mattersā as the reason for censoring him, and it called the police to escort him out of the building.
Last fall, the district court in favor of Mr. Pollak, declaring that the school board violated his First Amendment rights and awarded him nominal damages of $17.91 (a symbolic amount referring to the year the First Amendment was ratified). The court also permanently enjoined the board from enforcing its policy to prevent speakers like Mr. Pollak who want to criticize school staff by name.
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To read the full fees order,āÆPollak v. Wilson, et al., clickāÆ.
Mchangama and Marami on deportation and dissent
- Jacob Mchangama and Hirad Marami, ā,ā The Bedrock Principle (April 14)
The Trump administration is invoking a clause of the that allows the Secretary of State broad discretion to deport anyone he believes āwould have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States.ā As such, a recently released detailing the governmentās case against the most prominent of the activists, Mahmoud Khalil, refrains from charging him with any crime. On Friday, a Louisiana immigration judge the Governmentās decision to deport Khalil. Constitutional scholars and to what extent the First Amendment protects noncitizens in such cases, and the Supreme Court may eventually weigh in.
But the question is not only constitutional ā it is foundational. Is deporting foreigners for expressing disfavored views compatible with a robust commitment to a culture of free speech?
As it turns out, history has a lot to tell us about states that exclude foreigners with controversial opinions and those that welcome non-native dissenters.
[ . . . ]
From Zenger to Hitchens, from Abrams to Arendt, it has often been immigrants who tested the boundaries of the First Amendment ā and in doing so, helped define its meaning. To now deport people for unpopular opinions is not merely a constitutional gray zone. It is a betrayal of the very idea that truth and progress emerge from argument, not conformity.
Silencing foreign voices wonāt make America safer. It will make it smaller and less resilient. A confident, free nation doesnāt banish speech ā it engages it.
The odd couple: Franks and Corn-Revere in dialogue (and debate) at Brooklyn Law School event

April 17, 2025:
Featuring:
Dr. Mary Anne Franks ā Eugene L. and Barbara A. Bernard Professor in Intellectual Property, Technology, and Civil Rights Law, George Washington Law School; President and Legislative & Tech Policy Director, Cyber Civil Rights Initiative
Robert Corn-Revere ā Chief Counsel, ²ŻŻ®ŹÓʵAPP¹ŁĶų (²ŻŻ®ŹÓʵAPP¹ŁĶų)
Moderators
William Araiza, Stanley A. August Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School
, Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School
Discussants
Ron Collins, Co-founder of the History Book Festival and former Harold S. Shefelman Scholar, University of Washington Law School
Sarah C. Haan, Class of 1958 Uncas and Anne McThenia Professor of Law, Washington and Lee University School of Law
More in the news
- Brian Lowry, ā,ā The Wrap (April 21)
- ā,ā First Amendment Watch (April 21)
- Ed Wheelan, ā,ā National Review (April 21)
- Dillon Lowe, ā,ā Business Report (April 21)
- Zachery Wolf, ā,ā CNN (April 12)
- āFIRE Comments on FCC 'Delete, Delete, Delete',ā ²ŻŻ®ŹÓʵAPP¹ŁĶų (April 11)
2024-2025 SCOTUS term: Free expression and related cases
Cases decided
- (Petition granted. Judgment vacated and case remanded for further consideration in light of Gonzalez v. Trevino, 602 U. S. ___ (2024) (per curiam))
- (āThe petition for a writ of certiorari is granted. The judgment is vacated, and the case is remanded to the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit for further consideration in light of Gonzalez v. Trevino, 602 U. S. ___ (2024) (per curiam).ā)
- (9-0: The challenged provisions of the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act do not violate petitionersā First Amendment rights.)
Review granted
- (argued Jan. 15)
- (argued Jan. 10)
- (argued Jan. 10)
Pending petitions
Petitions denied
Emergency Applications
- (Kavanaugh, J., āIT IS that the March 14, 2025 order of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, case No. 2:24-cv-1401, is hereby stayed pending further order of the undersigned or of the Court. It is further ordered that a response to the application be filed on or before Wednesday, April 16, 2025, by 5 p.m. (EDT).ā)
Free speech related
- (Free exercise case ā Issue: Whether public schools burden parentsā religious exercise when they compel elementary school children to participate in instruction on gender and sexuality against their parentsā religious convictions and without notice or opportunity to opt out.)
- (Decided: 3-21-25/ 9-0 w special concurrences by Alito and Jackson) (Interpretation of 18 U. S. C. §1014 re āfalse statementsā)
Last scheduled FAN
FAN 466: āSixty-one media organizations and press freedom advocates contest Perkins Coie executive orderā
This article is part of First Amendment News, an editorially independent publication edited by Ronald K. L. Collins and hosted by ²ŻŻ®ŹÓʵAPP¹ŁĶų as part of our mission to educate the public about First Amendment issues. The opinions expressed are those of the articleās author(s) and may not reflect the opinions of ²ŻŻ®ŹÓʵAPP¹ŁĶų or Mr. Collins.
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